How long before Michael Moore dies in a mysterious airplane crash?
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If you are as bugged by that big mouth pumpkinhead like I am, you’ll probably enjoy my buddy JimK’s site Moorewatch…
Well actually I kinda like the guy. He’s got a whole lotta guts, for one thing… He goes over the edge sometimes, but I think it’s good for the U.S. to have that kind of pesky louse in its fur, if you know what I mean.
Go get ’em Mikey !
In my neighborhood, it’s risky to say it, but I’m Pro-Moore.
SOFA
Always question the authorities…
Moorewatch also asks for a buck! *LOL*
Further reading shows that the asking for money was “moore” a joke than anything else. Still a few good sites, I like em…
As usual, some people are more concerned about being right rather than being honest. M. Moore will embelish a little bit but hey, like Bush wasn’t embelishing when he said ‘no child left behind’ or how about Iraq being such an eminent threat- oooo they really gave us a run for a money, the eminent threat they were and everything…
Michael Moore is one righteous Christian prophet challenging false American idols! Let him expose the truth by lighting a fire under the butts of the millionairs who run the USA! Maybe in time, the little people will get their democracy back from the fat cats who are grinding the working people into the dust! Jesus is Lord, not Bush!
Where are the Weapons of Mass Destruction? Did the looters get to them in time, so they can sell them on the terrorist black market? Talk about fabricating the truth…
Yeah Moore likes sensationalism , but at least he doesnt hide behind blind nationalism. He brings his biased point of view with a sense of humor while our currently “selected” leader manufactures shock and awe. I met him awhile ago and he seemed geniune to me , I look people in the eyes when i talk to them and so did he, not like the media pumped chest thumping bombasting administration bent on re-inventing America The Heroic, after a rogue terrorist group slipped a sucker punch in while they were asleep on thier watch.
All I have to say is “Thank goodness for Michael Moore!” Watching this country go from bad to the unthinkable worst is excruciating; at least there is a truthful voice of dissent making his voice heard in our conservative-biased media.
M. Moore is the last bastion of hope we have in this corporate lead media which fills xenophobic suburban morons with more things to be scared of to justify invading nations simply because we dont like their system of government. The problem with this country is our goventment and the media is turning everyone in stupid rednecks. Moore tries to rise us all above that. I hope F911 does make it out. I would not be surprised if it is suddenly and mysteriously scrapped by Miramax.
Fro a non american’s point of view… he is the only thing i like about america at the moment. When will you people wake and realise you have lost heaps of your rights that you try so hard to protect. The rest of the world is laughing at a increasingly more ignorant and fearful american public being “led” by a man who would still lose a primary school spelling bee.
Go mikey,
you da man
I like what Michael Moore has to say, and when you research his statements, you become aware that his statements hold up under scrutiny.
I would like to preface this note by saying that I am not anti-American in the sense that I am opposed to the people of the United States. I think that internally, the United States is one of the best countries in the world to live.
It is a free and open society–although I would not say that it is truly democratic–Candidates who run for the Republicans and Democrats represent the interests of the different lobby groups and big businesses who support their
campaigns. George W. Bush flew around in a jet emblazoned with the Enron corporate logo during his campaign after all.
I support the American people; I feel for the American soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan, many of who have suffered and some whom have given their lives. I feel for the people who lost their lives in the World Trade Centre attack. I am
also saddened that members of the Red Cross and Canadian soldiers lost their lives in Afghanistan in errant U.S. missile attacks. Moreover, I pity the many people of Afghanistan and Iraq, who have done nothing to deserve the devastation brought upon them. Although I am not opposed to the American people per se, I
do have difficulties with United States foreign policy, which has long been imperialist, full of self-interest, dominating, economically motivated, and devoid of respect for humanity and basic human rights. I am concerned that the
U.S. government has spent 19 trillion dollars on defence (maybe offence is a better word) since World War II; I am concerned that the Bush administration looks more like an organized crime ring than a government. Truly, the Bush
administration is made up of corporate sharks and shady business practitioners
associated with Harken, Halliburton, and Enron.
John Negreponte, the U.S. ambassador to the U.N. has an interesting history dating back to when he was the U.S. ambassador to Honduras. It is widely believed that he was the man responsible for orchestrating the contra war in
1981, where the Reagan administration trained and funded “contras” and 30 000 Nicaraguans were killed. Negreponte is alleged to have overlooked serious atrocities to protect U.S. interests in Honduras. According to Human Rights Watch representative, Reed Brody, “When John Negroponte was ambassador [of Honduras] he looked the other way when serious atrocities were committed. One would have to wonder what kind of message the Bush administration is sending about human rights by this appointment.”
One also has to wonder about the United States motive for war in Iraq, considering the money yet to be made by companies that are tied to the U.S. Bush administration. The Wall Street Journal reported back in March, that the George
W. Bush administration’s Agency for nternational Development (AID) submitted a request for bids for contracts (contracts of up to $900 million) to rebuild post-war Iraq. Obviously, at this time the U.N. arms inspectors were already a mot point, no longer a concern of the U.S administration.
For one of these companies, Halliburton, Vice President Dick Cheney is still on its payroll, receiving an annual salary from when he stepped down as C.E.O. of the company. In a related story, a Judicial Watch suit charges that Halliburton overestimated the value of its stock by $445 million between 1999 and 2001. The
Washington Post notes that Vice President Dick Cheney sold $5 million of personal stocks in May of 2000 during the time when the stocks were allegedly over valued. Fourteen Halliburton executives are mentioned in the suit,
including Cheney and the accounting firm of Arthur Anderson (an interesting note: Arthur Anderson personally was the largest contributor to the Republicans party during the Bush election; he was also the accountant for Harken, Bush’s company, and also for Enron during the Enron scandal).
Kellogg Brown & Root, Halliburton’s subsidiary, the Bechtel Group Inc., Fluor Corp., Louis Berger Group Inc. and Parsons Corp. were all approached to bid for contracts worth up to $900 million. The entire rebuilding of Iraq is estimated
to be well in the billions. The 6 companies who were approach by AID combined for almost 2.4 million dollars in donations to the Republican Party from 1999-2002.
If one looks closer at these individual companies some other interesting observations can be made. The Bechtel group was sued because of their activities, providing Iraq with chemical or biological supplies in the 1980s. The Senior Vice President of Bechtel is General Jack Sheehan, who sits on the Pentagon’s Defence Policy Board. The Bechtel Group once tried to build a pipeline through Iraq using Rumsfeld as a mediator with Saddam Hussein. Another
of these companies, the Fluor Corp was alleged to have been involved with the CIA in the Iran-contra scandal, from Nicaragua.
So much of the U.S. government’s case against Saddam revolves around his use of biological weapons on his own people. Paul Rockwell states that, “The infamous massacre at Halabja — the gassing of the Kurds — took place in March 1988. Six months later, on Sept. 19, a Maryland company sent 11 strains of germs — four
types of anthrax — to Iraq, including a microbe strain called 11966, developed for germ warfare at Fort Detrick in the 1950s.”
Suddam Hussein’s weapon’s program was largely supported by the U.S. during the mid-nineteen eighties. One merely has to look at the US. Democratic Senator Donald W. Riegle speech stated in congress (9 February 1994): “Anthrax was shipped from the United States to Iraq back on 2 May 1986, and again in September 1988–signed, sealed, delivered, and approved by our own government, our own Department of Commerce. Clostridium botulinum was shipped on 22 May 1986, and again in September 1988 from the United States to Iraq. Histoplasma
capsulatum was shipped in February 1985 and went to the Ministry of Higher Education, so-called, in Iraq. Clostridium perfringens was shipped in May 1986 and again in September 1988. In addition, several shipments of E coli and
genetic materials, human and bacterial DNA, were shipped directly to the Iraq Atomic Energy Commission. You have to use your head a little bit because oftentimes the Defence Department cannot see these problems. They could not see
the Agent Orange problem for a long time…” This information came out because of the U.S. government’s refusal to acknowledge Gulf War Syndrome.
What do these gases do? Some of these gases attack the lungs, brain, spinal cord, and heart, producing a slow and agonizing death. Why did the U.S. government permit the sale of these weapons to Suddam Hussein? Because the U.S.
government believed that Hussein would use these weapons on the Iranians. U.S. intelligence provided information on how to launch many of these attacks. The U.S. even shot down an Iranian airliner. The only reason that Iraq invaded
Kuwait in the first place is because they had been armed with weapons sold to them by Germany, France, and the United States. Apparently, a U.S. diplomat even indicated to Saddam Hussein that the U.S. would not respond if Iraq invaded
Kuwait prior to the invasion.
Like the people he has surrounded himself with, President Bush has had his own share of shady business dealings. Washington Post reporters Mike Allen and Dana Milbank wrote about Harken, a company that George W. Bush was C.E.O. of , and whose accounting notably was conducted by Arthur Anderson (also of Enron and
Halliburton) which claimed a cash gain selling “a subsidiary, Aloha Petroleum, in 1989 to a group of insiders through a seller financed loan.” This was done to mask huge losses to mislead investors. The Securities and Exchange Commission demanded that Harken clear up this intentionally misleading accounting.
In 1992, the Security and Exchange Commission investigated George W. Bush for insider trading in 1990, when he sold $848 560 worth of shares before the company reported huge losses. Bush was later cleared of any wrongdoing by the
investigators, who were appointed by his father, then president, George H.W. Bush.
It also seems that the Bush family is economically tied to the wealthy bin Laden
family. According to a BBC report, an FBI investigation into a member of the bin Laden family and the World Association of Muslim Youth (WAMY), a group that had been kicked out of Pakistan for funding terrorism, was quelled by the White House Administration. The BBC report also noted that when the planes were grounded after 9-11, a charted Saudi plane was permitted by the White House to pick up 11 members of the bin Laden family, and 6 days later they were permitted to leave the U.S. to fly to Saudi Arabia. The FBI was granted only limited
access to the family.
Arbusto Energy, George Bush’s first oil company is reputed to have been silently financed by Salem bin Laden, through the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (B.C.C.I.). B.C.C.I collapsed in 1991, defrauding thousands of
depositors and led to years of inquiry and litigation.
The Saudi royal family, which governs Saudi Arabia and has a very close relationship with the United States and the bin Laden family, was set up by the British and allows the U.S. access to cheap oil and used the U.S. military under
the pretext of protecting its borders from Iraq during the first Gulf War and Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait. The U.S. military has never left. Of note, also is the fact that 15 of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, and apparently portions of the money that financed the hijackers came directly from the Saudis.
The Taliban too was financed by the Saudi government, who set up a large number of Muslim schools in Afghanistan; the Taliban government arose from within these schools as an organized student movement backed by Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and approved by the CIA.
A brief history of the U.S. involvement in Afghanistan provides some context of the framework for the 9-11 attacks: In 1979, during the height of the cold war between the U.S. and the U.S.S.R., the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan. The CIA used the Pakistani secret service, the Inter Services Intelligence (ISI), to
defeat and oust the U.S.S.R. from Afghanistan. The central idea of the United States was to begin a proxy war with the Soviet Union, by raising a significant army of militant Islamic radicals, the Mujaheddin, and to support them with U.S. built weapons to defeat and destabilize the Soviet Union in an Islamic “jihad” (holy war). The CIA attained temporary visas and passports for some of the men recruited by Osama bin Laden to be trained on American soil in the mid-nineteen eighties in terrorist tactics to defeat and destabilize the Soviet Union.
Osama bin Laden worked for Shiek Abdullah Azzam, a spiritual leader of the Mujahadeen, and the largest recipient of CIA money during the Afghan war. The U.S. supported the Afghan resistance with billions of dollars in weapons, even going so far as rewriting Afghanistan’s children’s school textbooks at an American University to propagate a war-like mentality. Afghanistan was reduced to rubble in the fighting, and the Soviet Union pulled out of Afghanistan in
1989. With a significant fighting force amassed in Afghanistan from Islamic countries all over the Middle East, the jihad soon spread to Kosovo and
Chechnya, and increased tensions in Kashmir. The Northern Alliance supported the war efforts by growing opium and creating heroin in laboratories in the borderlands between Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Now, I have no doubt that Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden are evil men, and yet I wonder about a foreign policy that would support these men as the United States government did at one time on the premise that the enemy of our enemy is our friend.
Conservatives are scared, the right is doing all they can to stop “Mikey”. They are attempting to discredit “Mikey’s” work. They are nit picking, small minute points in his work, instead of focusing on the themes and ideas that are expressed. Moore’s work is strikeingly honest and the fact that websites like moorewatch exist show that right is scared.
Not only is “Mikey” an excellent read, but have you read Al Franken?
What’s wrong with a man trying to voice his opinions? If you don’t like Moore, you can always go to that druggie Limbaugh.
If it doesn’t get release, it will be all over the underground like Bowling for Columbine, anyway. I finally downloaded Bowling for Columbine because it was posted everywhere for months.
Of course the conservatives are scared; Moore has the ability to mobilize first time voters.